CP016: Sub groups proposal#75
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* Add initial proposal for adding sub groups to SYCL.
* Add links to OpenCL 2.2 and OpenCL C++ 1.0 specifications. * Add specification of the codeplay::nd_item class template. * Add proposal to readme. * Add minor formatting changes.
* Move definition of codeplay extension nd_item to a class definition. * Add namespaces for class definitions.
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* Add description of sub groups example.
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* Removed unnecessary namespace
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| This vendor extension aims to define an interface to expose sub-group functionality, | ||
| as defined in the SYCL 2.2 provisional and the OpenCL 2.2 provisional, |
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OpenCL 2.2 isn't provisional (could probably also say "OpenCL 2.1" here as that is when subgroups were added to the main spec).
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| # Basic Sub group support | |||
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OpenCL uses "Sub-group", not "Sub group".
This is on many lines, I won't comment on them all.
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| All new functionality is exposed under the `basic_sub_group` namespace | ||
| in the `codeplay` vendor extension namespace. | ||
| When the vendor extension `basic_sub_group` is available, the macro |
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OpenCL subgroup extensions used subgroups in their names (e.g. cl_khr_subgroups).
It may be valid to ignore that given the type cl::sycl::codeplay::sub_group.
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| * The number of sub-groups available for each work-group is determined | ||
| at compile-time and remains the same during the execution of the SYCL application. |
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I'm not as familiar with the details of the SYCL spec, but looking at it now it seems that current use of "compile-time" means when compiling the SYCL program rather than the SYCL runtime calling clCompileProgram or similar. This information can't be known until clGetKernelSubGroupInfo (or clGetKernelSubGroupInfoCODEPLAY) can be called.
I'm just unclear on the intended meaning of compile-time.
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| * The number of sub-groups available for each work-group is determined | ||
| at compile-time and remains the same during the execution of the SYCL application. | ||
| * The number of threads per sub-group is known at compile-time, and remains the |
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This use of "threads" seems unusual.
"The sub-group size is known ...`
perhaps?
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| template <int Dimensions> |
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I see that this comes from the SYCL 2.2 provisional specification, but for my own sanity: Dimensions is here as hypothetical future proofing and barring some future vendor extension it will always have the value 1?
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Or is it important that, for example, with a 3D ND-Range that sub-group also has Dimension of 3, even if the actual sizes are always of the form {N, 1, 1}?
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| # Basic sub-group extension | |||
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General comment: Seems like this proposal is missing device info properties?
info::device::max_num_sub_groups and info::device::sub_group_independent_forward_progress
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| ## Namespace `basic_sub_group` | ||
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| All new functionality is exposed under the `basic_sub_group` namespace |
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There doesn't seem to be any basic_sub_group namespace used in this extension?
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| * The number of sub-groups available for each work-group is determined | ||
| at compile-time and remains the same during the execution of the SYCL application. |
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compile-time is this unclear: SYCL compile time or OpenCL.
The text after seems to imply SYCL because it sub-group range is constexpr, but this could be made more explicit here.
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| constexpr range<Dimensions> get_sub_group_range() const; |
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I find this really restrictive, you basically ban compilation for generic targets. But I also understand the need if you know your underlying target. Could we have a in-between solution ? i.e. constexpr iff you know the underlying target and it properties
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Add a proposal for introducing an extension to support sub-groups in SYCL 1.2.1.